1 00:00:11,959 --> 00:00:08,240 today we welcome the very excellent host 2 00:00:15,410 --> 00:00:11,969 of the secret Sun blog and the author of 3 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:15,420 such books as our gods wear spandex the 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:17,640 sick the secret history of rock and roll 5 00:00:21,410 --> 00:00:19,770 and the complete x-files if you're 6 00:00:22,730 --> 00:00:21,420 watching this video you can see all 7 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:22,740 those up on your screen 8 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:26,160 Chris Knowles is here Chris welcome back 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:27,990 thanks so much for joining me 10 00:00:37,639 --> 00:00:35,489 great to be back yeah I am too so you 11 00:00:40,490 --> 00:00:37,649 know one of the things I have up on the 12 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:40,500 screen is the little look the secret Sun 13 00:00:46,850 --> 00:00:43,230 logo I was at the web site the other day 14 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:46,860 and I'm constantly amazed I get so 15 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:48,660 excited reading these blog posts I'm 16 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:50,550 like oh man this is the kind of stuff I 17 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:52,829 really want to talk about but I gotta 18 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,960 say I want to make sure this work 19 00:01:00,260 --> 00:00:56,879 continues you're such a humble guy go to 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:00,270 the website you're pretty low-key on the 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:02,730 subscription you don't do the patreon 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:06,810 thing I mean I want to I felt guilty I 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:08,610 was like man I got to support this work 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:10,770 how are we gonna do it so you're pretty 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:12,770 low-key and all that stuff aren't you 26 00:01:19,460 --> 00:01:15,570 yeah I guess it's my punk rock roots you 27 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,470 know it's you know my punk rock hippy 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:22,080 kind of mentality I guess it doesn't 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:24,810 serve me well but you know as it stands 30 00:01:28,969 --> 00:01:26,610 at the moment I really haven't had time 31 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:28,979 to get involved with all my kind of 32 00:01:34,370 --> 00:01:32,369 stuff you know what I think yeah and 33 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,380 it's like a whole level you know of work 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:36,000 added on to the work you're already 35 00:01:40,580 --> 00:01:37,890 doing cuz you have to you know always 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:40,590 work with the premiums and the special 37 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,329 content and everything like that and 38 00:01:47,179 --> 00:01:44,159 it's like literally all I can do just to 39 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:47,189 get the stuff on the blog up so I hear 40 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:49,500 you I hear you I think it does can get 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:51,060 in the way I mean one of the things I 42 00:01:55,039 --> 00:01:52,890 think is so great and one of the reasons 43 00:01:58,969 --> 00:01:55,049 I wanted to have you back on is that 44 00:02:01,789 --> 00:01:58,979 your work is so highly influential that 45 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:01,799 I think for a lot of folks they're 46 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:05,219 familiar with the ideas they're familiar 47 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:07,110 with the themes that you're bringing up 48 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:10,080 but they're not necessarily connecting 49 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:12,300 it directly with you and I think that's 50 00:02:16,729 --> 00:02:13,980 really cool I'm unlevel 51 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:16,739 kind of this punk-rock underground thing 52 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:19,140 but I also want to kind of bring it out 53 00:02:24,740 --> 00:02:22,560 a little bit and make explicit in this 54 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:24,750 interview what's going on and not just 55 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:28,200 have you and I engage in a fun round of 56 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:32,129 inside baseball which we could do so I 57 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,410 think that's one of the goals of what I 58 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:36,720 want to try and do in this interview 59 00:02:42,789 --> 00:02:39,120 today so where I thought we might start 60 00:02:45,770 --> 00:02:42,799 Chris is some real quick hitter 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:45,780 definitions so these this is stuff that 62 00:02:50,180 --> 00:02:47,730 you and I would talk about and just kind 63 00:02:52,430 --> 00:02:50,190 of talk past but maybe they need to be 64 00:02:53,420 --> 00:02:52,440 kind of fleshed out just a little bit 65 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:53,430 very quickly 66 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:55,620 I mean sync we're gonna talk about syncs 67 00:02:58,150 --> 00:02:57,510 all over the place real quickly what's a 68 00:03:06,619 --> 00:02:58,160 sync 69 00:03:09,530 --> 00:03:06,629 highly meaningful coincidence I tend to 70 00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:09,540 believe that synchronicity is rather the 71 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:12,150 common is just sort of the way the world 72 00:03:15,729 --> 00:03:13,739 works to sort of the world is sort of 73 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:15,739 talking to you and telling you what's 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:17,790 updating you it's like outfitting your 75 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:20,130 software you know literally updating 76 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:24,590 yourself for me a sync is a supercharged 77 00:03:30,409 --> 00:03:27,000 symbolically supercharged meaningful 78 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:30,419 coincidence so in other words you can 79 00:03:37,909 --> 00:03:34,190 have significant and you know 80 00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:37,919 synchronistic events like literally all 81 00:03:41,539 --> 00:03:39,599 day long if you begin to pay attention 82 00:03:43,699 --> 00:03:41,549 to them if you if you look for them 83 00:03:45,020 --> 00:03:43,709 you're gonna find them because it's like 84 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:45,030 I said it's the way the world operates 85 00:03:50,210 --> 00:03:48,209 it's the way consciousness operates but 86 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:50,220 then you know there was like alerts it's 87 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,209 sort of like you know when you these 88 00:03:56,420 --> 00:03:53,040 look like Amber Alerts or silver alerts 89 00:03:58,369 --> 00:03:56,430 on your phone it's like my I'm sort of 90 00:04:00,319 --> 00:03:58,379 reserved sync you know this sort of 91 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:00,329 minor sayings what I call Guppies and 92 00:04:04,220 --> 00:04:02,160 then there are major syncs where it's 93 00:04:07,309 --> 00:04:04,230 like this is the alert this is you know 94 00:04:08,569 --> 00:04:07,319 the the alert broadcast system sending 95 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:08,579 you a message that you really need to 96 00:04:12,409 --> 00:04:10,440 pay attention to you know it's funny 97 00:04:13,369 --> 00:04:12,419 that you would throw Amber Alert in 98 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:13,379 there because we're going to have to 99 00:04:17,659 --> 00:04:14,879 pull that out and deal with that 100 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:17,669 separately in terms of the manufactured 101 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:21,479 alerts and the manufactured entrainment 102 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:24,000 that we get but you know the thing I 103 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:25,510 wanted to draw out on the sink 104 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:27,640 is that I think a lot of people get the 105 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:29,560 sink at the level that you were speaking 106 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:31,990 about it right then in terms of wow the 107 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:33,850 universe is sending me a message 108 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:35,980 11:11 and I'm not putting that down 109 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:37,960 because I think that's real but what 110 00:04:44,490 --> 00:04:40,420 you've done in a rather unique way is 111 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:44,500 connect this idea to culture and that 112 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:47,380 you know culture is both sending us 113 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:50,440 these messages and then may have even 114 00:04:58,830 --> 00:04:53,820 been I don't want to say co-opted but 115 00:05:00,900 --> 00:04:58,840 engineered to create some messages that 116 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:00,910 we might want to hear but with that 117 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:02,260 before we go too long because we'll 118 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:03,640 spend you know 10 minutes talking about 119 00:05:10,470 --> 00:05:06,180 that let's go down to another definition 120 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:10,480 synchro mystic so what are we saying 121 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:13,360 when we say synchro mystic beyond the 122 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:13,890 sink 123 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:17,190 well synchro mysticism is a practice 124 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:19,930 there's a bit of controversy over who 125 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:24,070 actually created the term I know that 126 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:27,270 Goro Adachi was doing this work publicly 127 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:29,830 very early on I had been doing it 128 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:32,920 privately for at least 20 years now but 129 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:35,080 I think the mysticism is a practice in 130 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:37,780 which you study 131 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:41,820 you're basically psychoanalyzing culture 132 00:05:49,890 --> 00:05:46,740 you're approaching culture as a union 133 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:49,900 analyst so you're looking you you see 134 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:52,330 you're looking at this particularly pop 135 00:05:56,910 --> 00:05:55,240 culture is pop culture is the collective 136 00:05:59,570 --> 00:05:56,920 dream it's it's the collective 137 00:06:03,630 --> 00:05:59,580 consciousness dreaming 138 00:06:05,580 --> 00:06:03,640 so you you analyze that you what is this 139 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:05,590 culture saying you know what where its 140 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:07,600 symbols is it using is it using these 141 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:10,120 symbols intentionally is it using them 142 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:12,190 unintentionally I mean what can we 143 00:06:16,530 --> 00:06:15,310 divine from this compartment this 144 00:06:20,430 --> 00:06:16,540 constant compartment that we're 145 00:06:22,410 --> 00:06:20,440 receiving even when we sleep you know 146 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:22,420 how do we process this how do we make 147 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:24,130 sense of this how is this being 148 00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:27,510 manipulated you know I I looks in the 149 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:30,430 manipulation of culture and the 150 00:06:38,610 --> 00:06:33,280 manipulation of symbolism through the 151 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:38,620 lens of sympathetic magic now I know a 152 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:39,430 lot of people so 153 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:41,620 see it in a sense of you know 154 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:44,170 everything's a PSYOP and and everything 155 00:06:49,050 --> 00:06:46,210 is just mind control yeah and I'm not 156 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:49,060 arguing that that certainly is a you 157 00:06:58,140 --> 00:06:52,570 know very much a part of all this but I 158 00:07:00,360 --> 00:06:58,150 see it more as a function of sympathetic 159 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:00,370 magic and sympathetic magic is when you 160 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:05,710 try to appropriate you know symbols and 161 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:09,670 the themes of the power that you're 162 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:12,070 trying to draw into yourself you 163 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:14,800 understand staying so it's like you know 164 00:07:21,980 --> 00:07:19,180 I do I do but let's let's cut that off 165 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:21,990 right there hold that thought because 166 00:07:27,450 --> 00:07:24,580 let's marry that was something that you 167 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:27,460 just mentioned kind of in passing but I 168 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:30,460 think is completely intertwined with 169 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,530 your work in a way that we have to break 170 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:34,240 it out for people to really understand 171 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:35,650 because you're kind of switching back 172 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:38,800 and forth a lot of times fluidly as you 173 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:41,320 should because they are intertwined but 174 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:43,540 let's break it apart I mean there's this 175 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:46,030 personal synchronicity that we 176 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:50,130 experience there's this cultural 177 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:52,840 synchronicity that we experience we are 178 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:55,810 reflective of and reflecting to our 179 00:08:01,590 --> 00:07:58,210 culture and then there's this third leg 180 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:01,600 of there's this conspiratorial aspect 181 00:08:06,830 --> 00:08:04,750 that is going on there is mind control 182 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:06,840 we're just talking about you know 183 00:08:15,630 --> 00:08:10,990 geoengineering that stuff is real as is 184 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:15,640 the effort to misinform and give us the 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:17,650 head-fake that know that isn't really 186 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:19,570 going on why would you think that kind 187 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:22,150 of thing so talk just I'm talking for a 188 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:22,750 long time 189 00:08:27,450 --> 00:08:24,610 give us a brief rundown of what 190 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:27,460 conspiracy means to you and what role it 191 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:31,030 plays in your work well in my work again 192 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:35,490 is what I see primarily as a function of 193 00:08:44,150 --> 00:08:41,410 sympathetic magic now this this this 194 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:44,160 process is the process in which 195 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:48,730 symbolism and and means are and icons 196 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:53,260 are manipulated intentionally in 197 00:08:58,530 --> 00:08:55,540 order to achieve it as a result and I 198 00:09:01,950 --> 00:08:58,540 think you know a phrase that Gordon and 199 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:01,960 I use a lot Gordon white of um of ruins 200 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:04,420 stoop use a lot is getting their 201 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:06,430 attention so in other words I think 202 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:08,830 where a lot of people tend to look at 203 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:14,640 this symbolism that they see in media as 204 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:17,920 purely a function of conspiracy that is 205 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:20,380 it's all you know they're all being sort 206 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:24,160 of entrained in in a sort of MKULTRA 207 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:25,300 Niomi 208 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:28,420 you know chatter blue bird whatever 209 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:31,420 program you choose that it's all a 210 00:09:37,950 --> 00:09:35,320 function of some sort of program and I 211 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:37,960 think in in there is a tremendous amount 212 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:39,490 of entrainment going on it and that's 213 00:09:43,530 --> 00:09:41,770 something that I've been trying very 214 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:43,540 hard to detail because I think that we 215 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:46,630 stink what I call emerging archetypal 216 00:09:50,730 --> 00:09:48,490 dominance and and that is that new 217 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:50,740 symbols are being fed people are still 218 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:54,100 looking for like these sort of 15th 219 00:10:00,450 --> 00:09:57,730 century Rosicrucian Masonic Templar I 220 00:10:04,410 --> 00:10:00,460 mean all those sort of symbolism being 221 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:04,420 fed into the culture and I think what 222 00:10:08,940 --> 00:10:06,790 that material was and what its function 223 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:08,950 was and why we saw so much it in rap and 224 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:12,430 music video and in high fashion is that 225 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,110 that was part of the entrainment process 226 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:16,240 I said it's basically getting people to 227 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:18,640 respond to symbolism in a way that they 228 00:10:24,450 --> 00:10:22,600 hadn't consciously so it's making what 229 00:10:26,390 --> 00:10:24,460 had been subconscious and unconscious 230 00:10:31,470 --> 00:10:26,400 conscious because I think that there is 231 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:31,480 an effort to change mass consciousness 232 00:10:37,590 --> 00:10:33,850 in a way that I don't believe this world 233 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:37,600 has ever seen and I think that you know 234 00:10:42,810 --> 00:10:40,750 I don't think this is speculation or 235 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:42,820 conspiracy theory per se I mean you know 236 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:44,950 their papers published on this through 237 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:47,380 academic journals and and you know 238 00:10:53,970 --> 00:10:49,930 psychology and science journals and and 239 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:53,980 you know we're really seeing because of 240 00:11:01,560 --> 00:10:57,850 this unprecedented extent of data that 241 00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:01,570 we're forced to process every minute of 242 00:11:06,910 --> 00:11:04,660 our lives that consciousness is changing 243 00:11:09,369 --> 00:11:06,920 and you can sort of see this 244 00:11:11,439 --> 00:11:09,379 and I don't know what necessary safe 245 00:11:12,699 --> 00:11:11,449 benign terms but it's like you know when 246 00:11:14,979 --> 00:11:12,709 we hear a lot about things like the 247 00:11:17,049 --> 00:11:14,989 Mandela effect and and and alternate 248 00:11:19,989 --> 00:11:17,059 reality and reality is getting weird and 249 00:11:22,239 --> 00:11:19,999 reality is changing you know I think one 250 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:22,249 of the functions of that is that we you 251 00:11:25,689 --> 00:11:23,689 know you and I can grow up certainly 252 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:25,699 with you know a limited number of 253 00:11:32,739 --> 00:11:27,410 television stations a limited number of 254 00:11:35,199 --> 00:11:32,749 radio channels that the data stream that 255 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:35,209 we were subjected to was very limited 256 00:11:39,999 --> 00:11:37,790 and it was very tightly controlled and 257 00:11:41,769 --> 00:11:40,009 managed to the point of like being 258 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:41,779 clenched you know what I mean it was so 259 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:45,889 hyper managed and so hyper focused that 260 00:11:53,109 --> 00:11:51,230 it was airless and the internet and all 261 00:11:55,299 --> 00:11:53,119 these forms of communication that have 262 00:11:58,359 --> 00:11:55,309 been open opened up throw us through 263 00:12:00,519 --> 00:11:58,369 electronics I are changing our reality 264 00:12:03,340 --> 00:12:00,529 paradigms because whistie we simply have 265 00:12:05,319 --> 00:12:03,350 more data to sift through and what data 266 00:12:06,939 --> 00:12:05,329 change you know you're a programmer I 267 00:12:08,819 --> 00:12:06,949 mean the more data you put into a 268 00:12:11,889 --> 00:12:08,829 program the more data you put into a 269 00:12:13,780 --> 00:12:11,899 computer it changes the way the computer 270 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:13,790 functions and I think that hold on Chris 271 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:15,889 hold on because I want to put a big 272 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:20,600 maybe on all that stuff both as a way of 273 00:12:27,999 --> 00:12:23,419 helping people understand your work and 274 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:28,009 as a way of winning some people over to 275 00:12:33,970 --> 00:12:30,410 the ideas that you just stated is kind 276 00:12:37,359 --> 00:12:33,980 of put a pause on it and say okay first 277 00:12:39,549 --> 00:12:37,369 of all let's agree to disagree you know 278 00:12:41,259 --> 00:12:39,559 it's a funny saying I just had an 279 00:12:45,129 --> 00:12:41,269 interview with the skeptic Michael 280 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:45,139 Shermer and I jumped on him because he 281 00:12:50,829 --> 00:12:48,169 did this he totally lied about something 282 00:12:54,489 --> 00:12:50,839 he totally misrepresented in Scientific 283 00:12:56,259 --> 00:12:54,499 American the researcher this NDE 284 00:12:58,809 --> 00:12:56,269 researcher and he just said something 285 00:13:00,669 --> 00:12:58,819 that the guide to he said the guy said 286 00:13:02,439 --> 00:13:00,679 something that he didn't say and then he 287 00:13:04,509 --> 00:13:02,449 said well I saw it one way he saw it 288 00:13:06,429 --> 00:13:04,519 another way we agreed to disagree I said 289 00:13:09,729 --> 00:13:06,439 no that's not agreeing to disagree 290 00:13:11,169 --> 00:13:09,739 that's just throwing the truth but one 291 00:13:15,460 --> 00:13:11,179 of the things I guess I to make this 292 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:15,470 point our group of alternative media our 293 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:18,529 group that of the Alt alt you know that 294 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:20,750 just agrees with what you're saying 295 00:13:25,780 --> 00:13:23,480 you and me and Gordon and a bunch of 296 00:13:30,190 --> 00:13:25,790 other folks or you know Greg Carl wood 297 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:30,200 or Miguel Connor or you know America 298 00:13:34,810 --> 00:13:32,990 guys are gone on that generally talked 299 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:34,820 with each other we just take all this 300 00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:36,860 stuff and we're like yeah yeah yeah and 301 00:13:42,490 --> 00:13:40,550 I think we're at a point where we need 302 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:42,500 to take that next level of saying wait a 303 00:13:48,450 --> 00:13:44,300 minute you know what about the other 304 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:48,460 side of that and be willing to kind of 305 00:13:53,770 --> 00:13:51,380 take that to the next level of saying 306 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:53,780 you know what as a community we're ready 307 00:14:01,270 --> 00:13:57,170 to kind of examine it with the same 308 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:01,280 critical work that culture does and 309 00:14:08,170 --> 00:14:05,510 everyone else does with our work a long 310 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:08,180 way of getting to this point and that is 311 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:10,970 what I want to do is take what you just 312 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:14,950 said and put it under the microscope 313 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:17,630 these would be some of your blog posts 314 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:20,000 because I came across and I just pulled 315 00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:23,750 up three I think we might get two if we 316 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:24,500 have time 317 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:26,960 three of your recent blog posts and I 318 00:14:32,250 --> 00:14:29,750 want to look at them through this lens 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:32,260 of bracketed reality 320 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:34,490 you mentioned Gordon white I was just 321 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:36,650 listening to an excellent interview he 322 00:14:43,890 --> 00:14:41,060 did with para anthropologist Jack hunter 323 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:43,900 who is going to be on this show soon and 324 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:48,050 they were talking about bracketed 325 00:14:54,579 --> 00:14:52,850 ontology z-- in anthropology and I 326 00:14:55,570 --> 00:14:54,589 thought and then I was getting ready for 327 00:14:58,540 --> 00:14:55,580 this you know and I thought wait a 328 00:15:02,230 --> 00:14:58,550 minute that's that's exactly what Chris 329 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:02,240 is doing what Chris is kind of exposing 330 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:06,350 here is this bracketed realities that we 331 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:09,980 live in and I think people will get a 332 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:13,130 better idea for that if we jump right in 333 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:15,710 and I'm gonna tee up one of your posts 334 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:18,200 here in a second and then I want you to 335 00:15:24,070 --> 00:15:21,530 talk us through what you said about it 336 00:15:26,770 --> 00:15:24,080 so okay Chris tell us a little bit about 337 00:15:28,210 --> 00:15:26,780 that Met Gala how everybody let me jump 338 00:15:29,860 --> 00:15:28,220 in with a little piece here because 339 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:29,870 going back through and editing I 340 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:32,480 realized this wasn't quite teed up in a 341 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:33,860 way that you can understand it 342 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:37,040 the Met Gala if you don't know is this 343 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:38,870 huge fashion show that was held in New 344 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:41,330 York and the big controversy if you 345 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:42,650 could see it on the screen if you can't 346 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:43,670 I apologize 347 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:46,850 was that the church partnered with 348 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:50,210 fashion to do all this what a lot of 349 00:15:55,810 --> 00:15:52,250 Catholics thought was a misappropriation 350 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:55,820 of all these Catholic symbols so you 351 00:16:00,040 --> 00:15:57,890 know they took the look so they took the 352 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:00,050 hat that the Pope wears and they kind of 353 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:02,210 turned that into something and they got 354 00:16:07,450 --> 00:16:04,820 you know demons and angels and all this 355 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:07,460 crazy stuff that really stirred up a lot 356 00:16:12,190 --> 00:16:10,010 of Catholics as you can imagine I mean 357 00:16:14,260 --> 00:16:12,200 if your understanding I'm not a 358 00:16:18,670 --> 00:16:14,270 Christian but if I was brought up in 359 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:18,680 that tradition this stuff is sacred this 360 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:22,610 is Jesus this is holy this is God this 361 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:25,190 is not something to be played with toyed 362 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:28,790 with made fun of which they are in some 363 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:32,480 ways or even just trivialized in any way 364 00:16:38,290 --> 00:16:35,150 imagine people who devote their whole 365 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:38,300 life to this faith into the sacredness 366 00:16:44,050 --> 00:16:41,360 of the the office of the Pope and the 367 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:44,060 the trappings of all the religion and 368 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:47,210 then here they are in a in a fashion 369 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:51,140 show it really is a mismatch you don't 370 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:52,910 have to take my word for it you can just 371 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:55,070 go google it you'll see all the 372 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Catholics that we're just completely 373 00:17:00,070 --> 00:16:58,730 outraged and then of course there's the 374 00:17:02,830 --> 00:17:00,080 other side and said oh isn't this 375 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:02,840 wonderful but that's teeing up at least 376 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:05,600 the point that we're discussing what I 377 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:07,850 see happening is that ice you know a 378 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:09,110 particularly these what I call these 379 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:11,690 emerging archetypal dominance is that I 380 00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:15,290 see that culture consciously and not is 381 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:18,230 being entrained now entrainment I mean 382 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,480 that it's is a conditioning process it's 383 00:17:27,010 --> 00:17:22,160 a process in which were being led 384 00:17:29,770 --> 00:17:27,020 through symbolic narratives know through 385 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:29,780 a kind of ubiquity through repetition 386 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:34,310 through these symbols being attached to 387 00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:38,150 meaningful events to news events to 388 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:41,780 publicity you know events such as this 389 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:44,150 look but again Chris can I jump in there 390 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:46,400 because I I wanna 391 00:17:52,450 --> 00:17:49,010 you're you're starting in the middle 392 00:17:56,890 --> 00:17:52,460 what I want people to get whether they 393 00:18:01,500 --> 00:17:56,900 agree with you or not is how this thing 394 00:18:05,170 --> 00:18:01,510 played on Good Morning America so that 395 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:05,180 really because let's face it this is how 396 00:18:10,930 --> 00:18:08,450 this is how 80% of people are getting it 397 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:10,940 whether they're agreeing with it 100% or 398 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:13,850 not let me play Good Morning America and 399 00:18:35,260 --> 00:18:18,190 then I'll skip around the video and then 400 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:38,520 [Applause] 401 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:41,890 tukutz to the gala go for an estimated 402 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:43,550 30 thousand dollars each but that's only 403 00:18:55,210 --> 00:18:46,550 if you make the cut and the fashion did 404 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:55,220 not disappoint I want to capture it 405 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:57,290 there is pieces of it then we can edit 406 00:19:04,540 --> 00:19:00,320 it out I can edit it out you know as we 407 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:04,550 go on so many times I know I'm playing 408 00:19:11,410 --> 00:19:07,970 I'm playing our presentation big so that 409 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:11,420 people can see this did you hear it but 410 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:13,880 I think it's vital right because you're 411 00:19:29,890 --> 00:19:18,290 you're in it they're not so here's a 412 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:29,900 ride what are you talking about oh no 413 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:34,510 better yeah there's no film stars 414 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:37,610 talking about this is just charity work 415 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:47,400 no I'll stop it right there cuz I've 416 00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:51,210 teed it up what are you talking about 417 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:54,700 what am I talking about org I'm being 418 00:20:01,770 --> 00:19:58,210 facetious because I mean I see is a 419 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:01,780 bracketed reality I see one reality 420 00:20:06,510 --> 00:20:03,790 being presented that is pop culture 421 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:06,520 fashion art charity NFL Hollywood 422 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:09,250 celebrity Chris that's what it is and I 423 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:12,490 see another reality that I mean this 424 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:14,470 caused an uproar among a lot of 425 00:20:19,170 --> 00:20:16,450 Catholics and they were saying oh my 426 00:20:21,210 --> 00:20:19,180 cthis is so blasphemous how can they do 427 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:21,220 it and then the secular atheist 428 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:23,050 community was like yeah that's how we 429 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:24,760 can do it cuz you're all full of crap 430 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:26,410 and we know what the truth is it's 431 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:28,090 atheism and then there's also the 432 00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:29,980 political angle of what's the Pope 433 00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:31,540 playing with this and what are the 434 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,430 politics of it and there's a social 435 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:35,200 justice warrior of it if there aren't we 436 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:38,650 free and then here's another bracketed 437 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:41,170 reality that only you are getting into 438 00:20:45,660 --> 00:20:42,670 or you're looking deeper and you're 439 00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:45,670 saying wait what what's what is the play 440 00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:48,360 here between what is supposed to be a 441 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:51,790 spiritual group the Catholics and the 442 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:54,970 Sutekh overtly satanic part of it what's 443 00:20:59,610 --> 00:20:56,710 the trickster element of it what's the 444 00:21:02,670 --> 00:20:59,620 magic element of it you said sympathetic 445 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:02,680 sympathetic magic and there's even I 446 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:05,230 would suggest a fourth bracketed reality 447 00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:07,510 and then I'll let you go on it but you 448 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:10,180 know there's the entrainment you know 449 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,830 what who's behind this in terms of 450 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:13,840 entrainment term mind control conspiracy 451 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:16,240 culture shaping so you know here's 452 00:21:20,910 --> 00:21:19,300 what's being presented to us and I'll go 453 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:20,920 back to your post here here's what's 454 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:24,640 presented is it's the Met Gala no big 455 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:27,970 deal what the beauty of your work is is 456 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:31,120 that you're saying hey folks look at 457 00:21:35,610 --> 00:21:33,670 this from all these bracketed realities 458 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:35,620 and look at them all at the same time 459 00:21:42,450 --> 00:21:37,690 and what's the message that comes 460 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:42,460 through interesting cuz I hadn't seen 461 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:44,590 that news report on this particular 462 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:46,540 event and it's it's really kind of 463 00:21:51,630 --> 00:21:48,850 shocking to me I guess I should watch 464 00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:51,640 more television the way that's presented 465 00:21:55,370 --> 00:21:52,500 was 466 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:55,380 rather sister in a way it's you know cuz 467 00:21:59,810 --> 00:21:57,900 it starts stuff with like this is what 468 00:22:02,080 --> 00:21:59,820 the good people are doing this is what 469 00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:02,090 the people who can you know afford 470 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:05,640 $30,000 for a ticket to a night out you 471 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:06,750 know I'm sure they spent several 472 00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:09,210 thousand dollars on top of that I mean 473 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:10,920 you know what most of the people 474 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:13,800 watching making in a year are these 475 00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:16,470 people were spending in a night so there 476 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:20,460 is this elitism that transcends elite 477 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:22,230 isn't it what was teeing here is that 478 00:22:25,550 --> 00:22:23,910 these people are our new gods that these 479 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:25,560 people are demigods these people are 480 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:28,710 celebrities these people are the role 481 00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:30,180 models these are the people that we need 482 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:32,070 to aspire to that we need to listen to 483 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:34,050 these are the people that we need to 484 00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:36,120 follow and it's interesting too because 485 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:38,520 that I heard a little clip of Depeche 486 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:40,860 Mode's personal Jesus you're your own 487 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:44,760 personal Jesus which rather strange song 488 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:46,590 to play in that context because that's a 489 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,250 rather caustic lyric but you know the 490 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Catholic Church was was deeply involved 491 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:54,570 in this they worked out the clergy in 492 00:23:02,210 --> 00:22:58,080 the hall that night I think what they're 493 00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:02,220 doing here is I think all of the above 494 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,350 all the brackets that you presented are 495 00:23:08,330 --> 00:23:06,840 correct and I think that's maybe the 496 00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:08,340 difference between my work and a lot of 497 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:10,740 other people's work because yes because 498 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:13,050 these things all function are all these 499 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,520 separate levels and this is what I talk 500 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:16,320 about when trying to do a kind of 501 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:20,880 psychoanalysis of culture but we're also 502 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:24,810 seeing here to me is actually a little 503 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:26,730 more insidious then than what I had 504 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,500 gathered from you know the material that 505 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:30,480 I had see and I hadn't seen presented 506 00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:32,910 impact it's quite in that way and it's 507 00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:34,560 interesting the Good Morning America has 508 00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:36,270 those Masonic colors you know it has 509 00:23:42,290 --> 00:23:38,670 masonic you know the specific masonic 510 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:42,300 blue and the specific Masonic gold in 511 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,100 their logo which is you know sort of an 512 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:46,320 interesting combination to fall along 513 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:48,930 there but really you know what we're 514 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:52,770 seeing here is it almost reminds me you 515 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:54,810 know I grew up rather religious you know 516 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:56,370 had a conservative religious upbringing 517 00:24:00,170 --> 00:23:57,930 you know not fundamentalist or 518 00:24:04,190 --> 00:24:00,180 conservative and it's a sort of almost 519 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:04,200 pre religious right in some ways and you 520 00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:06,390 know we would get a lot of 521 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:09,720 material these bulks of tracks that were 522 00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:11,910 all sort of you know Jack Chick Texas 523 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:13,020 Mars that I mean that kind of material 524 00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:15,240 and and this to me looks like something 525 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:16,470 from one of the you know Jack chicks 526 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:19,860 worst fever dream I mean that chick was 527 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,710 a fundamentalist cartoonist who put 528 00:24:27,710 --> 00:24:24,240 these tracks out but you know sort of a 529 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:27,720 great kitchen and you know he was a real 530 00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:30,450 Catholic basher and you know this looks 531 00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:32,550 to me like his worst nightmares come 532 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:35,880 true and put onto the screen this is 533 00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:39,660 really I mean explain to people what you 534 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:41,940 mean by that because just so the joke 535 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:45,810 doesn't slip past us I mean take a step 536 00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:49,970 back and the Catholic Church is 537 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:52,590 supporting this aisle even you showed 538 00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:56,640 the the slide here in your post you know 539 00:25:01,550 --> 00:24:59,460 we can talk about who's pope francis's 540 00:25:03,050 --> 00:25:01,560 and what jersey he's really wearing 541 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:03,060 because we don't know you know whose 542 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:05,610 side he's really on but you quote you 543 00:25:11,030 --> 00:25:09,150 showed this guy Timothy Dolan and I 544 00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:11,040 actually have the quote that I pulled up 545 00:25:15,970 --> 00:25:13,380 and here's what he says when he's asked 546 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:15,980 you know isn't this blasphemous to use 547 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:20,910 the most sacred images of our faith of 548 00:25:27,290 --> 00:25:24,570 this Jesus came to save the world thing 549 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:27,300 and then turn them into some kind of 550 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:30,390 show and he says it's because the Church 551 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,260 and the Catholic imagination interesting 552 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:36,480 phrasing the theme of this exhibit are 553 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:39,180 all about three things truth goodness 554 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:41,490 and beauty that's why we're into such 555 00:25:49,210 --> 00:25:43,650 things as art culture music literature 556 00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:49,220 and yes even fashion it's a very smooth 557 00:25:55,670 --> 00:25:52,800 recasting but obviously as you point out 558 00:25:59,300 --> 00:25:55,680 for a lot of people who are spiritual 559 00:26:01,820 --> 00:25:59,310 and do care about the spirituality that 560 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:01,830 they find in the Catholic Church they 561 00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:04,410 just step back and go what the [\h__\h] are 562 00:26:12,410 --> 00:26:09,390 you talking about well I mean this is to 563 00:26:14,150 --> 00:26:12,420 me it's it also reminds me of a philip k 564 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:14,160 dick novel you know the Empire never 565 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:17,130 ended and I think what we're seeing here 566 00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:20,310 is the the applecart way 567 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:23,640 set for at least a hundred years or so 568 00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:28,680 the applecart of the the aristocracy the 569 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:33,150 clergy banking interests and military 570 00:26:37,910 --> 00:26:35,970 interests we're working very well in in 571 00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:37,920 tandem and keeping the rest of us on a 572 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:40,200 very short leaf leash quite effectively 573 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:43,460 for thousands of years and I think that 574 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:48,330 technology the Industrial Revolution the 575 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:51,720 the world wars you know nobody in World 576 00:26:56,590 --> 00:26:54,450 War one could really anticipate the 577 00:26:59,650 --> 00:26:56,600 effect that you know mechanized 578 00:27:03,110 --> 00:26:59,660 industrialized murder would have on 579 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:03,120 human consciousness and on society and I 580 00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:04,260 think that was sort of a shock to the 581 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:07,380 system and then the the socialist and 582 00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:08,910 communist revolutions were sort of a 583 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:12,150 shock to the system and you know I mean 584 00:27:15,610 --> 00:27:13,920 it's something they try very hard to 585 00:27:18,380 --> 00:27:15,620 manage but I think that there were 586 00:27:19,670 --> 00:27:18,390 repercussions there and I think what 587 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:19,680 we're seeing here I mean this this 588 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:21,630 entire thing reminds me so much of 589 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:24,720 ancient Rome it looks exactly and plays 590 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:26,400 exactly like something that you would 591 00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:29,670 see some festival in ancient Rome that 592 00:27:34,670 --> 00:27:32,100 you know you and I and all the rest of 593 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:34,680 us you know would be standing out on the 594 00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:38,480 the the cobblestones watching these 595 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:40,620 aristocrats and then these celebrities 596 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:44,940 and these gladiators enter into this you 597 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:47,690 know what is essentially a high ritual 598 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:51,570 so what we're seeing here it's it's it's 599 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:53,880 very here and the way that the Newton 600 00:27:59,600 --> 00:27:56,970 Court make sure that you know that you 601 00:28:01,370 --> 00:27:59,610 were not involved this is you're not 602 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:01,380 part of this is the thing you can watch 603 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:03,450 but this isn't for you you're not 604 00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:05,820 invited it you will never be invited you 605 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:07,590 know the the millions of the people 606 00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:09,210 pretty much everyone who is watching 607 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:12,180 this will never gain access to this gala 608 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:14,220 this is a this is a convocation for 609 00:28:21,770 --> 00:28:18,750 God's so we're seeing this technology 610 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:21,780 high technology as being the greatest 611 00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:24,810 gift to the powers of the empire to 612 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:27,060 restore you know what I've been talking 613 00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:28,410 about since I started the blog which is 614 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:30,780 the restoration of the old hierarchies 615 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:33,390 and I think that you know that to me is 616 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:33,960 the 617 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:39,600 that's really troubling is that one 618 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:42,809 thing that I noticed before this gala 619 00:28:48,919 --> 00:28:45,210 took place oh and also by the way gala 620 00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:48,929 is a term that meant priests of Inanna 621 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:53,760 in in Babylon so it's this like it's all 622 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,130 smorgasbord so or Ishtar in Babylon in 623 00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:01,919 honor and Sumer but on the roof one of 624 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:04,140 the stories that I covered I think that 625 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:07,380 I included it in this as well is it on 626 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:10,799 the roof of the the Metropolitan Museum 627 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:12,570 as this was taking place and I think 628 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:14,070 it's on the roof until October is a 629 00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:20,370 12-foot alien demon the people have you 630 00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:23,600 seen this it's called um we haven't I 631 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:25,620 don't even know how to wrap my head 632 00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:28,380 around this it's just like what reality 633 00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:31,350 are we living in now I I can't I can't 634 00:29:36,139 --> 00:29:33,960 begin to imagine what the thinking 635 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,149 behind this is I'm I scroll down looking 636 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:38,399 at it now you're quite right right so at 637 00:29:44,269 --> 00:29:41,330 one level of a cultural control 638 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:44,279 mechanism this seems like a good 639 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:47,730 strategy you know if you were if this 640 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:49,230 was your job if this was your 641 00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:52,049 nine-to-five to say let's control the 642 00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:55,260 masses because let's consider the 643 00:29:59,419 --> 00:29:57,390 alternative of controlling the masses is 644 00:30:01,090 --> 00:29:59,429 they're gonna storm the castle they're 645 00:30:03,529 --> 00:30:01,100 gonna take over everything 646 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:03,539 yeah that's right so we don't want that 647 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:06,330 so it is in our interest to control the 648 00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:09,210 masses how do we do it and then you're 649 00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:11,580 saying one way is this very Roman way of 650 00:30:17,659 --> 00:30:15,539 you know the Coliseum and popcorn and 651 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:17,669 theater and all the rest of that and in 652 00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:20,850 that sense this meets although it checks 653 00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:22,679 all the boxes and then you start 654 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,299 checking those boxes and you start 655 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:26,399 saying you know in that bracketed 656 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:30,870 reality let me you know fashion our 657 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:33,390 charity NFL notice that we're gonna get 658 00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:35,640 the NFL guys both introducing it and 659 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:36,779 we're going to show them on there we're 660 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:38,279 going to get the Hollywood we're gonna 661 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:40,770 get the celebrity from a cultural 662 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:44,270 control mechanism that's how you do it 663 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:47,640 but the other parts of it that 664 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:50,460 you kind of slip into and out of and 665 00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:52,950 quite appropriately our some of these 666 00:30:58,730 --> 00:30:56,760 other really deeper parts is that if you 667 00:31:01,250 --> 00:30:58,740 are another part of that control 668 00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:01,260 mechanism and you're not your 669 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:03,720 nine-to-five isn't just to control the 670 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:08,550 masses but your secret ritual higher 671 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:13,790 magic practice is to say how can I 672 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:16,650 control the God above gods how can I 673 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:19,320 control the gods how can I bend the 674 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:22,890 extended consciousness reality that is 675 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:26,490 and make it work to my benefit well then 676 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:28,710 you're playing a different game but 677 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:30,900 you're also doing some of the same 678 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:33,330 things that you would see at the Met 679 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:37,080 Gala right so I want you to kind of pull 680 00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:40,530 those two apart because we have the 681 00:31:46,670 --> 00:31:44,340 satanic imagery in interspersed in this 682 00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:46,680 I mean it's it's in your face again and 683 00:31:56,270 --> 00:31:50,580 it's that's not just playing to a 684 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,280 cultural control tune it's also playing 685 00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:58,080 to in and you mentioned the Masonic 686 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:00,210 colors and stuff like that I mean you 687 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:02,010 can deconstruct it either way you want 688 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,650 you can say well that's just signaling 689 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,440 it's just another way of the this pop 690 00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:10,080 culture it doesn't mean anything or you 691 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:12,150 can say gee we have to be aware that 692 00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:15,000 there is this extended consciousness 693 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:16,830 reality and they're playing in that 694 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:23,390 yeah I would take it to a much more 695 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:25,290 basic level than that and you sort of 696 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:27,450 get to you know one of the things that 697 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:29,850 I've been trying to parse is you know if 698 00:32:38,030 --> 00:32:34,170 in fact there is some effort being made 699 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:38,040 and entrainment you know what what's the 700 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:40,440 end result here and what in fact do 701 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:42,570 these people actually believe you know 702 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:45,810 what do they believe it I I have a very 703 00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:50,430 strong conviction that you know atheists 704 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,480 make good scientists they make good 705 00:33:00,020 --> 00:32:55,440 functionaries they make good Bureau 706 00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:00,030 that's you know sort of like and I guess 707 00:33:03,610 --> 00:33:01,430 in 708 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:03,620 the brave new world it would be the you 709 00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:05,720 know the beta's you know you sort of 710 00:33:11,410 --> 00:33:07,820 want your babies to just be focused on 711 00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:11,420 the number crunching but the alphas or 712 00:33:19,270 --> 00:33:17,000 you know the the blue ultra elf as it 713 00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:19,280 were they have a very strong belief 714 00:33:23,410 --> 00:33:21,230 system and this is something that I just 715 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:23,420 got a sense of when I was in New York 716 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,410 working in New York and walking around 717 00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:29,600 you know where the money is you know all 718 00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:31,670 the neighborhoods where you know the 719 00:33:35,049 --> 00:33:33,500 people who have money live not 720 00:33:36,970 --> 00:33:35,059 necessarily work I mean that's a whole 721 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:36,980 other conversation but you know places 722 00:33:40,990 --> 00:33:39,650 like Murray Hill and the Upper East and 723 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Upper West Side I mean these kind of 724 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:45,010 neighborhoods and looking at the the way 725 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:47,630 buildings were decorated the way lobbies 726 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:49,850 were decorated and you know this really 727 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:52,640 sort of was the impetus behind or the 728 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:54,170 original impetus behind are gods with 729 00:34:04,750 --> 00:33:57,260 spandex because on that street level in 730 00:34:06,730 --> 00:34:04,760 seeing this mythological godly symbolism 731 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:06,740 everywhere you looked I I came to 732 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:07,970 understand that there's a belief system 733 00:34:14,379 --> 00:34:10,970 at work that there is a belief you know 734 00:34:17,050 --> 00:34:14,389 it may be sort of like more of a 735 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:17,060 Hierophant ik too corny term belief 736 00:34:23,070 --> 00:34:20,110 system in which a lot of these these God 737 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:23,080 symbols are seen symbolically and 738 00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:25,730 incorporated into a very elaborate and 739 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:28,550 complex symbolic system but you know 740 00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:31,010 every religion sort of has you know its 741 00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:37,190 mystical component and I think that when 742 00:34:42,610 --> 00:34:39,580 you look at the mystical component 743 00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:42,620 throughout the world religions I think 744 00:34:48,909 --> 00:34:44,300 they have more common with each other 745 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:48,919 than with maybe even the people who 746 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:51,649 worship in you know are ostensibly the 747 00:34:57,370 --> 00:34:54,530 same faith tradition but don't see 748 00:34:59,890 --> 00:34:57,380 things mystically and symbolically but 749 00:35:02,590 --> 00:34:59,900 at the same point in time I think you 750 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,600 know that's sort of a rapid hole that 751 00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:04,160 you can just go down and then ever leave 752 00:35:09,010 --> 00:35:06,620 and there's been hundreds of thousands 753 00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:09,020 of books in academic circles written 754 00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:11,150 about that and that's fine I mean I have 755 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,580 no problem with that but I think that 756 00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:15,280 you know having 757 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:19,820 attended say charismatic meetings hadn't 758 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:23,630 grown up in a conservative Christian 759 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:27,650 tradition haven't been exposed to punk 760 00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:29,210 rock which is basically which is 761 00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:32,150 basically a mystery cults you know I see 762 00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:34,070 it as a Mithraic a neo Mithraic mister 763 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:36,470 we called and and having you know worked 764 00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:41,210 with in all these different modes III 765 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:45,380 think that you know belief really um is 766 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:50,090 more most powerful and moves mounds when 767 00:35:56,890 --> 00:35:53,570 it's based on what is perceived as an 768 00:35:59,950 --> 00:35:56,900 external objective reality in other 769 00:36:02,260 --> 00:35:59,960 words you know you can symbolize things 770 00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:02,270 all you want you can see the gods as 771 00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:05,830 being embodiments of forces of nature 772 00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:10,220 but the real power and the real 773 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:14,200 changement acres are produced by a 774 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:18,530 belief in a force that stands outside of 775 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:20,210 nature a force that stands out a 776 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:22,490 supernatural force of course it stands 777 00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:27,290 outside of the machine and again I think 778 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:29,150 that's what we're seeing here and I just 779 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:31,660 want to get back to this this 12-foot 780 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:35,810 three-headed or sort of like Cerberus 781 00:36:41,530 --> 00:36:38,270 headed alien demon on the roof of the 782 00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,540 net you know then then hold on a second 783 00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:43,280 up up you I'm gonna pull it up and put 784 00:36:46,990 --> 00:36:45,260 it on the screen because I think people 785 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:47,000 really need to see this what people 786 00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:48,920 really need to understand is that well 787 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:50,630 all this was going on and it's 788 00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:52,310 interesting too because you had Catholic 789 00:37:00,210 --> 00:36:56,540 imagery with a number of very prominent 790 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:00,220 celebrity female celebrities dressed as 791 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:03,320 scarlet women and one of the best 792 00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:05,210 examples of this is the rapper Nicki 793 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:08,630 Minaj you know who said that she had was 794 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:10,730 dressed as the devil and she was wearing 795 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:15,650 this long flowing red dress with what's 796 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:18,050 called the waterfall train and didn't 797 00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:19,250 you say there was another one where it 798 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:24,400 was something oh something to the abyss 799 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:27,160 you know I mean it's in your blog post 800 00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:29,260 but it's like a tribute to the abyss so 801 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:31,960 it's not just that they're doing the 802 00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:34,930 Easter play and showing the devil that I 803 00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:38,790 mean their venerating and celebrating 804 00:37:43,770 --> 00:37:41,590 yeah I believe that was the Ariana 805 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,780 ariana grande dress which was up The 806 00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:46,240 Last Judgment so you know the 807 00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:48,790 apocalyptic symbolism is is very strong 808 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:50,980 here but so what people really need to 809 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:52,540 understand is that image that you're 810 00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:55,300 looking at right now on screen which is 811 00:37:59,880 --> 00:37:58,000 that 12-foot alien demon and it's not 812 00:38:02,520 --> 00:37:59,890 like I'm saying you know just being 813 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:02,530 using hyperbole here I mean that's what 814 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:04,690 it actually is I mean that's what it's 815 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:07,270 presented as that's what the arms to 816 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:11,110 create it explains it as and and look at 817 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:13,690 that image I mean that if that isn't 818 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:15,250 like something out of you know 819 00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:17,650 hieronymus Bosch's worst nightmares I 820 00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:19,120 don't know it is it's a you know it's a 821 00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:23,860 12-foot demon you know with the the 822 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:26,020 three heads you know similar to the 823 00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:28,210 Janus heads over the Cerberus heads or 824 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:31,600 you know the Hackett you know Triple 825 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:34,300 Goddess kind of feeling there but we got 826 00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:35,830 to switch back to the cultural 827 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:38,140 bracketing on this one too right because 828 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:41,470 as soon as you say that someone's 829 00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:43,810 jumping in behind you and going you fool 830 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:46,600 it's just art people in the art world do 831 00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:49,270 all sorts of crazy stuff and you pull 832 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:51,940 them back go well no let's go back and 833 00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:54,910 look at the intent of the artists what 834 00:38:58,110 --> 00:38:56,350 they said they were trying to 835 00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,120 communicate let's look at it from this 836 00:39:02,340 --> 00:38:59,920 spiritual dimension and analyze whether 837 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:02,350 there's any evidence for that to be true 838 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:04,990 and then let's look at the people who 839 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:09,010 have decided that this should be 840 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:11,500 presented in this way and what are their 841 00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:14,550 beliefs and I think that it's so 842 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:18,340 difficult to switch people over because 843 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,760 that one bracket is so strong and is so 844 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,400 dominant it is the Good Morning America 845 00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:26,800 bracket and it's so comfortable because 846 00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:29,590 we've been entrained if you will to be 847 00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:33,070 comfortable with that bracket so we just 848 00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:36,070 get into it like a warm bath as Marshall 849 00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:38,700 McLuhan said about how we read the Sun 850 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:40,950 a paper you know we just we just slide 851 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:43,349 into it and go okay tell me everything's 852 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:45,270 going to be okay tell me I don't have to 853 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:47,400 think real deeply rather than just 854 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:49,950 looking at the next bracket and 855 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:54,720 incorporating that in well if that fails 856 00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:56,250 then you have people like Michael 857 00:40:01,460 --> 00:39:59,339 Shermer who will shame you back into 858 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:01,470 line I mean Michael Shermer to me is 859 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:04,290 like he reminds me of you know basically 860 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:07,040 a shepherd dog you know the shepherd dog 861 00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:11,310 circles the flock and when she gets out 862 00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:13,950 of you know line gets out of the circle 863 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:17,369 one does you know off his territory that 864 00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:19,740 the dog swoops in and barks it back into 865 00:40:26,510 --> 00:40:22,619 the herd and that's basically when 866 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:26,520 Michael Sharma's job is James Randi hey 867 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:28,530 man that's what good morning but that's 868 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:34,710 what Good Morning America's job is good 869 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:38,820 morning that is certainly what vices job 870 00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:42,510 is vices the skeptics the skeptics are 871 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:45,150 dead the skeptics are over stick a fork 872 00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:47,670 in it what gets me is when you go on 873 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:50,880 Vice and you're edgy man you're hip 874 00:40:56,510 --> 00:40:53,970 you're cool and they're doing the same 875 00:40:58,970 --> 00:40:56,520 number they're sounding like the next 876 00:41:01,550 --> 00:40:58,980 round of Michael Shermer is insane yeah 877 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:01,560 but we don't really believe that we do 878 00:41:09,130 --> 00:41:04,980 psychedelics but we don't understand how 879 00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:09,140 they refute scientific materialism and 880 00:41:13,490 --> 00:41:11,160 consciousness being a product of the 881 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:13,500 brain we don't go there man we just stay 882 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:16,500 on this hip cool level I have to take 883 00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:18,450 issue with you there I think Good 884 00:41:25,609 --> 00:41:23,190 Morning America CNN MSNBC they are the 885 00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:25,619 sheepdogs they are barking us back into 886 00:41:32,569 --> 00:41:31,230 line well that presentation that you 887 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:32,579 showed that almost reminds me of like 888 00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:34,980 the new catechism that reminds me of 889 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:37,920 like Sunday school more than you know 890 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:39,720 it's sort of the carrot and stick and 891 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:41,369 that seems to be more of the carrot and 892 00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:44,550 of you know that's the enticement that 893 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,430 is the that's the honey rather than the 894 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:49,200 vinegar do you see what I'm getting at 895 00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:51,450 heat there I mean that's that's making 896 00:41:55,339 --> 00:41:52,470 it all alluring 897 00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:55,349 that's not you know using the threat of 898 00:42:02,480 --> 00:41:56,700 ostracism 899 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,490 and humiliation if you question that's 900 00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,560 the point I'm trying to make here I mean 901 00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:06,079 I think it's an important distinction 902 00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:09,000 because you know you attract more people 903 00:42:13,339 --> 00:42:10,800 with with honey than with vinegar but 904 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:13,349 you know you need the vinegar in certain 905 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:15,510 cases you may need that the Union you 906 00:42:22,339 --> 00:42:19,490 need to stick for when the incorrigibles 907 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:22,349 question why there is the 12-foot alien 908 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:24,930 demon on the roof of the most one of the 909 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:27,810 most famous art museums in the world you 910 00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:29,910 know maybe the most the second most 911 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:32,520 prominent Art Museum after the Louvre 912 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:34,170 we're in Paris which has you know the 913 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:40,710 giant glass pyramid in the end and I was 914 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:42,569 getting towards Pacific point and that 915 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:44,910 is that if you look if you really start 916 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:46,050 to and this is something that I've been 917 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:47,940 really detailing for the past year or so 918 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:50,970 is that if you really start to look at a 919 00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:52,530 lot of the symbolism and it's becoming 920 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:54,150 more and more apparent and more and more 921 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:55,770 repetitive and you know the Soliman 922 00:43:03,559 --> 00:42:58,290 training process is that there really is 923 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:03,569 a belief in what Christians and Jews 924 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,460 sort of saw as the Nephilim as the 925 00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:08,640 Fallen Angels as you know the the sons 926 00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:11,880 of heaven who were painted in you know 927 00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:14,339 in in books like Enoch as as the 928 00:43:19,819 --> 00:43:17,400 villains that they're seen as the good 929 00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:19,829 guys that they was you know if you could 930 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:21,510 because if you actually read Enoch I 931 00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:23,670 mean that the Watchers come to earth and 932 00:43:28,819 --> 00:43:26,609 they bring technology they bring yes I 933 00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:28,829 mean big teach human beings hard to 934 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:31,560 civilize themselves how to you know 935 00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:33,930 technologies how to read the Stars all 936 00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:35,940 these sort of things so I thought of 937 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:38,579 people over time and said no those are 938 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:40,650 the good guys those weren't the bad guys 939 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:42,930 those are the good guys so I when 940 00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:45,300 looking at this this whole Met Gala and 941 00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:47,160 again this could just be my personal 942 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:48,750 interpretation blah blah blah disclaimer 943 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:50,609 disclaimer but it's like we're seeing 944 00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:53,540 what it looks like the the 945 00:43:59,960 --> 00:43:56,670 reconstitution of the iconography and 946 00:44:02,500 --> 00:43:59,970 the symbolism of the church but all 947 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:02,510 under the like literal wing of this 948 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:05,760 fallen angel up on the roof of the 949 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:06,690 building 950 00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:09,790 winrich this all took place I mean the 951 00:44:14,010 --> 00:44:11,800 symbolism could not possibly be more 952 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:14,020 crystal clear I mean I would have to 953 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:15,970 come up to you and start smashing in 954 00:44:19,950 --> 00:44:17,980 their face with a hammer and and 955 00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:19,960 screaming at you for this to be any 956 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:21,790 clearer if people were actually paying 957 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:23,500 attention to what was being said and the 958 00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:24,790 problem is that people don't pay 959 00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:26,620 attention with being said they pay 960 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:30,040 attention to the way it's being packaged 961 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:33,730 the way it's being read presented to 962 00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:36,580 them maybe there's a reason for that and 963 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:39,190 you know that's that's interesting I 964 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:41,770 think that's like a layer or a level 965 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:44,770 three or four kind of discussion that I 966 00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:48,450 love to have but let's try and get you 967 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:50,680 let me just say my piece let me just say 968 00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:52,330 my piece because I want to try and get 969 00:44:58,290 --> 00:44:54,430 there because this gets a little bit too 970 00:44:59,790 --> 00:44:58,300 the agree to disagree part because one 971 00:45:02,430 --> 00:44:59,800 of the things that the points that you 972 00:45:05,250 --> 00:45:02,440 just made totally valid you may be right 973 00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:05,260 I may be completely wrong but you're 974 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,080 suggesting that the the imagery the 975 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:10,240 symbolism and the meaning behind it is 976 00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:13,720 so obvious once you pull it apart and I 977 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:15,790 just oppose that with all the other 978 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:17,650 stuff that we've talked it had talked 979 00:45:24,570 --> 00:45:21,310 about in terms of the reality bracketing 980 00:45:28,170 --> 00:45:24,580 and I'm saying my point would be I don't 981 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:28,180 think you're being totally fair to the 982 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:30,790 reality of some of those other brackets 983 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:33,940 the reality that Good Morning America 984 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:36,730 even though they may be this culture 985 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:41,950 shaping entrainment vehicle is also a 986 00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:44,950 news organization is also a profit 987 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:46,900 Center they're not in the business of 988 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:49,060 going out of business they kit they 989 00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:50,770 don't have an endless supply of money 990 00:45:55,460 --> 00:45:53,260 they have to have eyeballs so they are 991 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:55,470 both responding to the public and 992 00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:57,610 leading the public and there's a 993 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:00,900 subtlety to that there's a reality to 994 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:03,610 fashion there's a reality to people who 995 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:05,890 like to find ways to express themselves 996 00:46:10,650 --> 00:46:08,650 in different ways and I think sometimes 997 00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:10,660 we get into this mode and we're forced 998 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:13,000 to choose that Oh everyone has these 999 00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:16,510 crazy esoteric kind of thing no only a 1000 00:46:20,329 --> 00:46:19,180 very few do and the other point that I 1001 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:20,339 guess I jump 1002 00:46:27,709 --> 00:46:24,180 they're in make is that not everything 1003 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:27,719 works the way the culture shapers want 1004 00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:30,690 so we have so many dramatic examples of 1005 00:46:36,049 --> 00:46:33,180 that but no one saw that fricking thing 1006 00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,059 on the top of the Met so if that was 1007 00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:38,880 supposed to be some big signal that no 1008 00:46:43,339 --> 00:46:41,700 one got well no one did get it so to 1009 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:43,349 that extent to where they're trying to 1010 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:45,660 put it in your face for an agenda that 1011 00:46:51,799 --> 00:46:47,849 we're not really clear of we have to say 1012 00:46:54,349 --> 00:46:51,809 well that's a fail too so I guess I 1013 00:46:55,729 --> 00:46:54,359 smell often I don't see it as a fail 1014 00:46:57,799 --> 00:46:55,739 because I think there's people who 1015 00:47:00,160 --> 00:46:57,809 imagine to get this the signal got the 1016 00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:00,170 signal because that story on that 1017 00:47:04,489 --> 00:47:03,630 sculpture was a major news story in the 1018 00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:04,499 New York Times 1019 00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,630 near post I've been a number of art 1020 00:47:11,809 --> 00:47:09,359 newspapers I mean that information was 1021 00:47:13,549 --> 00:47:11,819 circulated I mean the problem and again 1022 00:47:16,549 --> 00:47:13,559 the problem that I have with a lot of 1023 00:47:18,529 --> 00:47:16,559 conspiracy theory is that it's always 1024 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,539 like oh it's about me and the thing that 1025 00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:20,400 I've been saying since I started the 1026 00:47:24,259 --> 00:47:22,440 blog it's like I don't think they really 1027 00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:24,269 care what we think I don't think they 1028 00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:26,339 care you know the people who erect these 1029 00:47:30,859 --> 00:47:28,380 giant buildings were these illuminated 1030 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:30,869 obelisks and and pyramids and all this 1031 00:47:34,999 --> 00:47:32,729 kind of course they do it's better the 1032 00:47:36,499 --> 00:47:35,009 pitchforks thing it's back to the pitch 1033 00:47:38,569 --> 00:47:36,509 for it it's why they're trying to take 1034 00:47:40,819 --> 00:47:38,579 away the guns you know it's like you 1035 00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:40,829 know the whole second well just let me 1036 00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:42,329 finish it to get into the whole second 1037 00:47:46,489 --> 00:47:44,339 amendment thing which we don't have to 1038 00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:46,499 and shouldn't but it's so relevant again 1039 00:47:50,479 --> 00:47:48,839 in this bracketed reality but one of the 1040 00:47:53,299 --> 00:47:50,489 realities of that that I think people 1041 00:47:55,759 --> 00:47:53,309 don't get is you know what it's a lot 1042 00:47:57,799 --> 00:47:55,769 harder to control people when they don't 1043 00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:57,809 have guns and people say well how can 1044 00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,460 that be I mean they can roll in with 1045 00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,380 tanks they can roll in with you know all 1046 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:03,359 these super weapons and all this yes but 1047 00:48:07,549 --> 00:48:05,729 it's still a lot harder than going to 1048 00:48:10,789 --> 00:48:07,559 door to door and trying to disarm people 1049 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:10,799 of m16s so I say that only because 1050 00:48:15,739 --> 00:48:14,249 that's another reality Chris if I would 1051 00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:15,749 I would turn it around and saying if 1052 00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:18,900 what you're saying is true is real then 1053 00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,609 of course they wanted everyone to hear 1054 00:48:25,009 --> 00:48:22,319 it of course they wanted everyone to see 1055 00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,019 it it's like to switch to another topic 1056 00:48:29,059 --> 00:48:27,420 again it's like the UFO thing that 1057 00:48:31,729 --> 00:48:29,069 they've tried to push out in the last 1058 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:31,739 six months and it failed miserably we 1059 00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:32,530 don't know why 1060 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:34,420 DeLonge couldn't carry the that water 1061 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:36,730 that water as the waterboy that he was 1062 00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:38,770 but he wasn't able to carry it but we 1063 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:40,990 don't know why but our best guess is 1064 00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:45,130 they were trying to run a PSYOP and it 1065 00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:47,800 didn't work so the best way to process 1066 00:48:52,770 --> 00:48:50,740 this stuff at surface level they're 1067 00:48:57,810 --> 00:48:52,780 trying to run stuff and it doesn't 1068 00:48:59,310 --> 00:48:57,820 always work no I agree with let me just 1069 00:49:01,800 --> 00:48:59,320 sort of train that back on you in state 1070 00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:01,810 yeah I agree with pretty much everything 1071 00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:04,240 you just said and you know the sole 1072 00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:05,860 thing about the bracken realities and 1073 00:49:11,580 --> 00:49:09,640 things existing on all these various 1074 00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:11,590 planes I mean I think this goes back as 1075 00:49:15,060 --> 00:49:13,540 long as human history is concerned I 1076 00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:15,070 mean this goes back you know literally 1077 00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:17,740 to Samaria and to Babylon you know I 1078 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:19,600 agree with you i but what I'm trying to 1079 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:22,450 say is that when you have this gala 1080 00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:25,210 event and of course again gala is a word 1081 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:28,030 meaning priesthood to Ishtar to annona 1082 00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:30,250 to Venus I mean whoever you want 1083 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:32,230 whatever name you want to give her but I 1084 00:49:37,310 --> 00:49:34,090 think that there's an understanding that 1085 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:37,320 people who need to understand understand 1086 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:40,840 that it's a lot of information is meant 1087 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:42,250 for public consumption a lot of 1088 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,070 information is meant not for public 1089 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:47,440 consumption I mean you know you gain a 1090 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:49,210 lot of power and advantage in the 1091 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:53,650 marketplace through secrecy through you 1092 00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:55,930 know confidential information through 1093 00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:00,640 proprietary material I mean you don't 1094 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:02,470 make everything public that's you know 1095 00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:03,970 the things you want to make public you 1096 00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:06,070 make color and and I don't want to say 1097 00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:07,870 that you know this whole idea that this 1098 00:50:12,330 --> 00:50:10,600 some grand puppet master just 1099 00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:12,340 orchestrating everything you see and do 1100 00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:14,260 I I think that's ridiculous I think it's 1101 00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:17,230 untenable I think that logistically it 1102 00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:19,990 just is just it's a non-starter but I do 1103 00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:23,350 think that there are a number of you 1104 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:24,580 know where we see through corporate 1105 00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:27,130 consolidation that it's much easier to 1106 00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:29,380 put through a consistent message now 1107 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:32,830 than ever before because you know even 1108 00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:34,270 with all the multiplicity of the 1109 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:35,800 internet and things like that 1110 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:38,650 you do have centralization in the the 1111 00:50:43,650 --> 00:50:40,990 media that most of the people in the 1112 00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:43,660 world consume sure but but not to get 1113 00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:45,700 off on another tangent but I think what 1114 00:50:49,810 --> 00:50:46,520 you just 1115 00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:49,820 kind of brushed over there is such a 1116 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:53,060 huge huge counterbalance that it has to 1117 00:50:58,450 --> 00:50:55,250 be drawn out and that's that we have 1118 00:51:03,099 --> 00:50:58,460 greater access to alternative voices to 1119 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:03,109 alternative realities that it it pales 1120 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:04,910 by comparison to the amount of 1121 00:51:09,730 --> 00:51:06,890 consolidation the fact that people can 1122 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:09,740 listen to you and me for free the pep 1123 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:12,290 the fact that people can still Google or 1124 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:14,390 Bing or whatever a lot of this stuff and 1125 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,450 spend days deconstructing this is is 1126 00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:19,520 just a precedent we just can't point to 1127 00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:21,380 another time in history we can point to 1128 00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:23,260 other places in history where 1129 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:26,089 governments or social organisations have 1130 00:51:29,770 --> 00:51:27,530 been able to kind of completely get a 1131 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:29,780 stranglehold on the media but we haven't 1132 00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:31,250 been able to point to other times when 1133 00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:32,900 there's been this wide open access to 1134 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:35,440 information unprecedented information 1135 00:51:40,570 --> 00:51:38,570 yeah well I think that one of the things 1136 00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:40,580 that I'm very concerned about is the way 1137 00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:42,859 all the various techniques that are 1138 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:46,430 being used to limit choice to limit 1139 00:51:52,690 --> 00:51:49,970 availability of dissenting voices to 1140 00:51:54,609 --> 00:51:52,700 eliminate or to you know we see things 1141 00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,619 like shadow banning we see things like 1142 00:52:00,400 --> 00:51:56,960 deep platforming we see things like 1143 00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:00,410 delisting and there are a lot of ways to 1144 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:03,380 not necessarily silence someone but to 1145 00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:05,810 take away their megaphone and I think 1146 00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:07,640 that that's something that everyone 1147 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:10,070 should be concerned about now now here's 1148 00:52:14,170 --> 00:52:12,380 the thing I mean one of the things that 1149 00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:14,180 I always try to impart to people is that 1150 00:52:19,630 --> 00:52:16,760 people who you know like a super villain 1151 00:52:21,339 --> 00:52:19,640 so to speak like a Lex Luthor I mean 1152 00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:21,349 these people do not see themselves as a 1153 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,180 villains they do not see themselves as 1154 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:25,040 bad guys I mean you do have Satanists in 1155 00:52:28,690 --> 00:52:26,720 the world I mean you certainly have a 1156 00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:28,700 lot of say teenis in in the 1157 00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:31,070 entertainment industry and so on but did 1158 00:52:36,130 --> 00:52:32,990 they to me are the players the people 1159 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:36,140 who really move in shake do not you 1160 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:37,490 don't see yourself as that the villain 1161 00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:39,770 and the loser in someone else's story 1162 00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:44,030 you see yourself as the victor you see 1163 00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:47,599 yourself as you know a cut above and you 1164 00:52:52,530 --> 00:52:50,150 see yourself as transcending these kind 1165 00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:52,540 of limitations has better life there 1166 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:55,430 yeah exactly so I think that when you 1167 00:52:59,820 --> 00:52:57,770 see these kind of things like this Met 1168 00:53:01,830 --> 00:52:59,830 Gala presentation 1169 00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:01,840 which I mean I could write a book up on 1170 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,360 this thing it's just it's boggles my 1171 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:06,880 mind the you know and all these 1172 00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,690 different bracket realities at play you 1173 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:11,680 know it's like they've got all the 1174 00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:13,030 horses running here because all the 1175 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:14,740 bragging is where realities are being 1176 00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:19,210 manipulated you know in sync so to speak 1177 00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:21,190 I mean they're all being run at the same 1178 00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:23,040 time from business all 1179 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:28,000 broadness is being operated concurrently 1180 00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:30,250 so I think that that's something it's 1181 00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:32,500 very important and it's like there's so 1182 00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:35,350 many ideas that you know we could just 1183 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:37,840 have a like an entire series of like 1184 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:39,670 three hour long talks and we wouldn't 1185 00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:41,530 even scrape the surface stop what I'm 1186 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:43,870 trying to hold on cuz I gotta say I got 1187 00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:46,210 it I have a time limit here that I have 1188 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:48,280 to read into something so I do have to 1189 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,230 wrap that up but that was just going to 1190 00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:52,960 be my point I want to share with people 1191 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:55,750 what I'm not going to be able to talk 1192 00:53:59,580 --> 00:53:57,850 about today but I wanted to be able to 1193 00:54:03,630 --> 00:53:59,590 talk about because I wanted to go check 1194 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:03,640 out all this stuff at the secret Sun and 1195 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:05,710 then maybe get back to me and get back 1196 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:08,290 to you and tell us if you see it this 1197 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:11,800 way so you know here's another post I 1198 00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:13,330 was hoping to cover we're not going to 1199 00:54:19,860 --> 00:54:15,880 be able to cover I titled it is Satan 1200 00:54:22,110 --> 00:54:19,870 panicked and you've just have an awesome 1201 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:22,120 post about Johnny Depp and I think 1202 00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:24,040 you're spot-on on so many things but 1203 00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:26,920 what it really came down to was these 1204 00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:30,040 three guys who got I love this got 1205 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:33,160 entangled in mass hysteria because 1206 00:54:41,130 --> 00:54:35,890 anything to do with satanic ritual abuse 1207 00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:41,140 of course is hysteria because that's how 1208 00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:43,540 we bracket that reality there's no 1209 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:46,270 reality to it so I want people to check 1210 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:49,600 out that and then I want people to check 1211 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:51,670 out your excellent post you mentioned 1212 00:54:59,250 --> 00:54:55,770 entrainment many times is this classic 1213 00:55:02,610 --> 00:54:59,260 entrainment in terms of telling us about 1214 00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:02,620 how we should understand our sexuality 1215 00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:04,990 oh no it's let me tell you the truth 1216 00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:09,640 about robotic sex or sex with fish which 1217 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:13,060 they evil section on your 1218 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:15,610 when that movie that recent movie came 1219 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:17,710 out so what I'm really hoping people do 1220 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:21,610 is check out your books check out your 1221 00:55:26,370 --> 00:55:24,490 excellent blog which you can see there 1222 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:26,380 on the screen the secrets on blog 1223 00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:27,310 spot.com 1224 00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:31,120 but in the time we do have left 1225 00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:33,630 tell us Chris what's coming up for you 1226 00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:36,460 you know since I put this thing together 1227 00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:38,380 you already have two more blog posts up 1228 00:55:42,450 --> 00:55:39,550 there that you know I haven't even 1229 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:42,460 touched on so what's coming up what can 1230 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:45,010 people look for from you in the coming 1231 00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:48,370 weeks and months well I'm glad you asked 1232 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:49,660 because one of the things that I really 1233 00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:52,210 want to touch upon is something that I 1234 00:55:55,620 --> 00:55:53,740 know that you've discussed with Gord and 1235 00:55:59,340 --> 00:55:55,630 that's this whole idea of Star magic and 1236 00:56:02,760 --> 00:55:59,350 the idea of the the mystery of the stars 1237 00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:02,770 and the mystery of the certain stars and 1238 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:04,990 certain constellations in this and this 1239 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:06,880 is something that I I really have to 1240 00:56:10,770 --> 00:56:09,250 confess I stumbled upon by action by 1241 00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:10,780 following these area streams that I've 1242 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:12,430 been falling over the past year but I 1243 00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:14,710 really see is very powerful and very 1244 00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:17,440 important and that might sound like just 1245 00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:19,300 completely nebulous but what I think 1246 00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:21,640 this really boils down to and this might 1247 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:23,380 sound completely off the wall and I 1248 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:24,580 understand that which is why I'm 1249 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:26,710 struggling so hard the effect of cosmic 1250 00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:30,850 rays from stupid Nova's on human DNA and 1251 00:56:34,830 --> 00:56:33,340 on human consciousness I think that this 1252 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:34,840 is something that we don't pay attention 1253 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:37,090 to and I think is really important and I 1254 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:38,770 think is really behind a lot of the 1255 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:41,770 symbolism it sounds completely off the 1256 00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:43,930 wall but it just keeps popping up and 1257 00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:48,220 again and again that is so cool it's so 1258 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:51,820 awesome that you would go there I mean I 1259 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:54,250 hope folks can appreciate that and 1260 00:56:59,250 --> 00:56:56,530 that's why I said the agree to disagree 1261 00:57:04,220 --> 00:56:59,260 thing is like I don't know enough about 1262 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:04,230 that to even agree or disagree but I 1263 00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:07,810 sure as hell love the fact that you are 1264 00:57:12,690 --> 00:57:10,390 out there doing this work and as I said 1265 00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:12,700 at the beginning folks if you can find a 1266 00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:16,840 way to support this guy it is the best 1267 00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:19,180 investment you can make on your money 1268 00:57:25,350 --> 00:57:22,870 because if there is the beginnings of a 1269 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:25,360 counterbalance to some of the culture 1270 00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:26,410 shaping that's going 1271 00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:28,510 and the new culture that's constantly 1272 00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:33,220 being formed this is part of it so Chris 1273 00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:34,840 it's just awesome look within we're 1274 00:57:38,250 --> 00:57:36,310 gonna have to just continue this I'm 1275 00:57:40,650 --> 00:57:38,260 gonna I really appreciate it 1276 00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:40,660 I appreciate the opportunity to talk 1277 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:43,600 about the stuff and if people come to 1278 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:45,310 the blog and and don't understand what's 1279 00:57:50,490 --> 00:57:48,130 going on don't feel bad because it's a 1280 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:50,500 very very deeper rabbit hole all of us 1281 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:52,570 is still falling down it and struggling 1282 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:54,850 to find a foothold so you're not alone 1283 00:58:00,090 --> 00:57:57,090 believe me don't feel bad 1284 00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:00,100 awesome so thanks for watching this 1285 00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,260 video if it wasn't really a video but 1286 00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:04,720 just an audio stored as a video well I 1287 00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:06,400 apologize but there's more videos out 1288 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:08,440 there as well but please check out the 1289 00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:10,510 Skeptical website you can see it here we 1290 00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:12,040 cover a lot of different stuff you might 1291 00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:14,110 be interested in relating to 1292 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:17,230 controversial science and spirituality a 1293 00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,350 lot of shows up there over 350 of them 1294 00:58:26,170 --> 00:58:22,720 or so all free all available for